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    Default Struggling to find information on the legality of herbal stimulants

    Hi, I'm not actually trying to get high here but I need some kind of remedy for narcolepsy. This is beginning to get ridiculous. Most of the herbs I have looked into are illegal here, despite their medicinal properties... Absolutely bloody ridiculous...

    Anyway, first of all I need some solid information on Ephedra. I am finding varying information on this herb and nothing that is recent, the most recent information I found was from 2011 suggesting that is it legal but I still have no idea.

    Second of all, I'd like to ask if anyone here knows any potent energizing herbs that they can confirm are legal here in New Zealand, or anything they think might have any value in treating narcolepsy at all.

    If anyone knows any minerals or chemicals that may provide a boost, please also include them or whatever at all may be of relevance. Thank you.

    (posting this twice as I'm not sure where this thread belongs, sorry if this is against the rules)

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    Hey @Aurum_Alchemist - Have you spoken with a registered healthcare professional about your narcolepsy? You didn't mention this in your post, and I'd recommend this before sourcing alternative treatment online if you haven't already.


    Best of luck either way

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    Largest ever amount of ephedrine seized in New Zealand


    A police and Customs crack down has resulted in two of the biggest drug seizures in the country, worth $170 million.

    Police on Friday announced they had made their largest-ever seizure of ephedrine, nabbing 200 kilograms of the chemical used to make methamphetamine or P.

    Hours earlier, Customs revealed they had seized $20m of P at Auckland Airport - the most ever seized at a New Zealand airport.


    The ephedrine was smuggled inside 80 boxes of paper sent from China and had the potential to make around $150m of methamphetamine.


    See:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...in-New-Zealand

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    For the reference, I am wanting to know the legality of Ephedra, not Ephedrine. Ephedra, aka, Mahuang, was legal in NZ for a time. The most recent information I can find suggests that it is legal. But this was from 2011. Ephedra is a herb, not Ephedrine. It has Ephedrine in it but it's herbal.

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    The effectiveness of herbal remedies pales in comparison to alkaloids extracted from said plant(s) or synthetic analogues. Have you considered a eugeroic like Adrafinil. Which it seems is classified as prescription medicine in NZ. Foreign companies will ship it to NZ hassle free. It's not as good as modafinil but may still be suitable in your case.

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    Weed in NZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurum_Alchemist View Post
    For the reference, I am wanting to know the legality of Ephedra, not Ephedrine. Ephedra, aka, Mahuang, was legal in NZ for a time. The most recent information I can find suggests that it is legal. But this was from 2011. Ephedra is a herb, not Ephedrine. It has Ephedrine in it but it's herbal.
    Please try your doctor there are drugs that can be far more effective then herbs.

    Medications for narcolepsy include:

    • Stimulants. Drugs that stimulate the central nervous system are the primary treatment to help people with narcolepsy stay awake during the day. Doctors often try modafinil (Provigil) or armodafinil (Nuvigil) first for narcolepsy because it isn't as addictive as older stimulants and doesn't produce the highs and lows often associated with older stimulants. Side effects of modafinil are uncommon, but they may include headache, nausea or dry mouth.

      Some people need treatment with methylphenidate (Aptensio XR, Concerta, Ritalin) or various amphetamines. These medications are very effective but may sometimes cause side effects such as nervousness and heart palpitations and can be addictive.
    • Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) or serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs). Doctors often prescribe these medications, which suppress REM sleep, to help alleviate the symptoms of cataplexy, hypnagogic hallucinations and sleep paralysis. They include fluoxetine (Prozac, Sarafem, Selfemra) and venlafaxine (Effexor XR). Side effects can include weight gain, sexual dysfunction and digestive problems.
    • Tricyclic antidepressants. These older antidepressants, such as protriptyline (Vivactil), imipramine (Tofranil) and clomipramine (Anafranil), are effective for cataplexy, but many people complain of side effects, such as dry mouth and lightheadedness.
    • Sodium oxybate (Xyrem). This medication is highly effective for cataplexy. Sodium oxybate helps to improve nighttime sleep, which is often poor in narcolepsy. In high doses it may also help control daytime sleepiness. It must be taken in two doses, one at bedtime and one up to four hours later.
      Xyrem can have side effects, such as nausea, bed-wetting and worsening of sleepwalking. Taking sodium oxybate together with other sleeping medications, narcotic pain relievers or alcohol can lead to difficulty breathing, coma and death.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...t/con-20027429

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